Another thought: In response to Hanna Neelman’s (ballerina farm) interview many liberal said “let her do what she wants” is the feminist position. Many liberal women believe Lily’s behavior cannot possibly reflect what she actually wants, claiming the feminist perspective is “Lily has internalized patriarchal ideals so deeply that she is…
Another thought: In response to Hanna Neelman’s (ballerina farm) interview many liberal said “let her do what she wants” is the feminist position. Many liberal women believe Lily’s behavior cannot possibly reflect what she actually wants, claiming the feminist perspective is “Lily has internalized patriarchal ideals so deeply that she is willing to embrace her own exploitation”. I’ve even seen women interpret Lily’s behavior as self harm. Contrasting your episode about Lily with your episode about Hannah: Hannah said she didn’t want to give up her dance education but her husband encouraged her to get married; Lily said she left school because she was making good money doing something she enjoys. Hannah says she’s living a life she is called to live by god (who says that if she leaves the church she won’t see her children for eternity). Lily says she decided sex wasn’t that big of a deal to her so she does what she wants despite existing in a culture that that believes her promiscuity is wrong and gross. Hannah experiences a benevolent patriarchy. Lily is openly ridiculed by conservatives upholding patriarchal values like purity culture. Hannah grew up in a community that has enforced her behavior as the “right choice”and her immediate family holds her to that standard. Lily’s family seems to support her decisions to engage in behaviors that subvert the cultural values she was exposed to as a child. Are these women able to give and withdraw consent? Both claim they are doing what they want. How much confidence do we have in their claims? To what extent does their behavior align with their public statements? What can we tell from the inconsistencies? Do both women have the support, autonomy, and independence to leave their current lifestyle? Do they have the knowledge and resources to make a lifestyle change?
Sorry for all the editing: I am super dyslexic. ;)
Another thought: In response to Hanna Neelman’s (ballerina farm) interview many liberal said “let her do what she wants” is the feminist position. Many liberal women believe Lily’s behavior cannot possibly reflect what she actually wants, claiming the feminist perspective is “Lily has internalized patriarchal ideals so deeply that she is willing to embrace her own exploitation”. I’ve even seen women interpret Lily’s behavior as self harm. Contrasting your episode about Lily with your episode about Hannah: Hannah said she didn’t want to give up her dance education but her husband encouraged her to get married; Lily said she left school because she was making good money doing something she enjoys. Hannah says she’s living a life she is called to live by god (who says that if she leaves the church she won’t see her children for eternity). Lily says she decided sex wasn’t that big of a deal to her so she does what she wants despite existing in a culture that that believes her promiscuity is wrong and gross. Hannah experiences a benevolent patriarchy. Lily is openly ridiculed by conservatives upholding patriarchal values like purity culture. Hannah grew up in a community that has enforced her behavior as the “right choice”and her immediate family holds her to that standard. Lily’s family seems to support her decisions to engage in behaviors that subvert the cultural values she was exposed to as a child. Are these women able to give and withdraw consent? Both claim they are doing what they want. How much confidence do we have in their claims? To what extent does their behavior align with their public statements? What can we tell from the inconsistencies? Do both women have the support, autonomy, and independence to leave their current lifestyle? Do they have the knowledge and resources to make a lifestyle change?
Sorry for all the editing: I am super dyslexic. ;)